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Ngara RED-Is Everyone in This Country Color Blind?

6 years 4 months ago #32446 by Brian420a
Time flys when you're having fun!!!:):)

I've been in constant contact with Rick and he has had very little luck if any at all with the red coming through his line lately but you are correct. Ron georgeonie and Jim stigliano both cultivated the red colony from ricks line years and years ago. Rick will be the first to tell you that he breeds for body color not the red. Unfortunately I think it has been lost for now. The sad part is I have six generation of Jim and Ron's true RED females with out a true red male to breed to them... I will keep my fingers crossed though.

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6 years 4 months ago #32445 by mikeg2929
Talk with rick boester. Boesterscichlis.com

He is on this site and I think he keeps that line also. He may even have started it. When you start talking about stigliano, well, thats years ago - maybe 10?

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6 years 4 months ago #32441 by Brian420a
I guess what I was really hoping for is that there were people who had the red line. Jim Stigliano was a constant source for someone that always kept a red male actively breeding. I got the one in the picture years back and kept selling off the fry and never growing a back up male out and I ended up losing my male after only three years. I went back to every person I ever sold them to and no one actively kept the red breeder!!!???:(:(:(. If anyone knows anyone from the ACA I would love to talk with them because I need a guys number; Ron georgionie. He is another one who kept the red... Thank you!

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6 years 4 months ago #32438 by mikeg2929

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6 years 4 months ago #32436 by scubadiver
Interesting I have been looking for Ngara and wanted the Orange - Yellow variety and can't find any.

I had some younger cherry reds and have seen the orange yellow variety and I think it is much pretty.

Now I have seen a lot of Ngara out there that are just not that pretty and lack any color.

Talking with Kevin at the classic he said the flame really changes as the fish gets older (over a year or two)

Take a look at the Ngara from the classic - that is one of prettiest fish I have even seen
www.gcca.net/2011-05-03-03-34-50/photo-g...012-classic-pictures

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6 years 4 months ago #32435 by Brian420a
Hurt, no not at all. This being a rant and all, I also want to challenge the hobby to breed for perfection. You can't do anything overnight while breeding so why not take the time to work toward the fish you are truly trying to breed? The red strand exists and is by far the nicest Ngara, instead of saying you have it or telling yourself you have it, work to make it a true red. This is all I'm getting at... Did the picture post with my original ad? I want to also see if people can show a truly red Ngara? I posted a picture of my red line and want to see if it's still out there.

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6 years 4 months ago #32433 by mikeg2929
So what is your point?

Most of the ngara are actually mdoka. There is a ton of ignorance in the fish hobby. But.....so what? Are you injured by these descriptions? Buy with your eyes, not due to what you read.

Another BS adjective - RARE. Rare usually means brown and ugly and with little commercial value.

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6 years 4 months ago #32431 by Brian420a
Yes but they all don't have distriptive variants like a flame tail or mdoka which is actually a yellow variant of the Stuart G. A flame tail to me discribes the orange faded to yellow. 90 percent of ngara are this variant. When you say red in Ngara terms...

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6 years 4 months ago #32430 by chefjimmy
Red devil
Red zebra
Red Texas
Red terror
Blood red parrot

They're all orange

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6 years 4 months ago #32428 by Brian420a
Red Ngara?

What comes to mind when people say red; cherry's, Red apples, cherry red Corvettes and Ferrari Red...

These are things I think of when someone says they have a RED Ngara. Somewhere along the line breeding a red male became having red breeder male fry, which I agree not all Red Ngara Males produce "red" fry, but where did it hit the point in our phenomenal hobby that so many intelligant people can't tell the difference between Red and Orange??? I understand the market is floaded with Ngara's so you can probably get more money for "red/truly Orange" Ngaras; this is being dishonest though, people. A shrink will tell you if you lie to yourself enough you will believe what you are telling yourself. To this day they remain one of my favorite all time peacock but I post this ad with an example of a TRULY Red Ngara and challenge people to stop looking through $$ lenses and truly come up with a picture of their RED ngara, or change your description to what you really have... An orange Ngara.

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